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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:56 pm

Okay, Nora / Conor, here are the updated templates:

http://www.twoevils.org/files/FancyIndex-Gamepedia.zip
http://www.twoevils.org/files/FancyIndex-DVDpedia.zip

Let me know if those work okay (and please give it a test before using!). I tried to arrange the files as you said. The previews, hopefully, should be here:

http://www.twoevils.org/html/mygames/
http://www.twoevils.org/html/mydvds/

Next on the docket should be Bookpedia, and probably a revamp of how the popup windows look. Then, maybe CDpedia and statistics. :)
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby jschaffe » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:00 pm

marumari wrote:Then, maybe CDpedia and statistics. :)

I can't wait!
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:29 pm

Also, the next version should fix the bit where the table will shrink/grow as it filters out results. Now, it should always stay the same horizontal width when you search - but it's still resizable, if need be.
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Re: Seeking template feedback

Postby kbarnes70 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:38 am

marumari wrote:* Fixed a bunch of IE issues. There's still a few left (like when you search, then sort) that are edge-casey enough that I'll probably not fix
* Added some extra fields to the details page
* Added links for Additional Images, Find on Google, and Buy on Amazon to the details pages

Aside from some code-cleaning and you folks reporting some bugs, I think that's probably what I'd leave it at. I'll try to throw up a downloadable Template when I get a chance.


Brilliant work!! Any chance of a DVDpedia version of this? Or maybe someone more savvy than I am at this sort of thing can edit the original and post a Fancy DVDpedia version???

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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby Conor » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:23 am

Thank you so much April for the update and the new DVDpedia version. I have added the files to our extras page with the useful download and install link. I have also added a blog post so that more users find out about them.

Some personal feedback, I would add a conditional link to IMDb based on the presence of the IMDb number. Unfortunately, there is no "else" statement, so you can't simply replace the "find at IMDb" link that is also quite useful, but you could have them side by side or add the IMDb one to the attributes under the image.
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<!--IFimdb <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt[key:imdb]" >IMDb</a> ENDimdb-->


@keith
The latest version is also for DVDpedia so give the DVDpedia version download link a click.
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:45 am

Conor - hmmm, that's a good idea. In the next edition that comes out, I will have the IMDb key link directly to the IMDb page... probably in addition to the Find on IMDb link. An if/else thing would be neat, because I could use a direct link if there was an IMDb key, and a search query if there wasn't. Or, even simpler, an if/if not statement, like:

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<--IFimdb <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt[key:imdb]">Find on IMDb</a> ENDimdb-->
<--IFNOTimdb <a href="http://www.imdb.com/find?s=tt&q=[key:title]">Find on IMDb</a> ENDimdb-->


Or something like that. Also, being able to nest IF statements would be handy. I won't rest until templates are Turing complete! :mrgreen:

I think you're *really really* going to like the next version of FancyIndex - the colorbox popup looks more-or-less /exactly/ like it does in the Pedias, with some minor concessions to usability. It basically makes FancyIndex into an HTML, read-only version of the Pedias, and I think it looks way more readable than the current colorbox.

I do have a question for you - is any way to iterate the screenshots, like you can with credits and track lists?
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:43 pm

Okay, I sat down for six, seven hours this morning and I hammered it out, for the Gamepedia template:

http://www.twoevils.org/html/mygames/

Changes:
* Table doesn't shrink/grow horizontal, during a search
* Now includes *every single attribute* available in Gamepedia, displayed how Gamepedia orders them (mostly)
* Completely revamped the look of the pop-up... look familiar? *grins*

Lemme know what you think! The default font is Lucida Grande (what the Pedias use), so it will look best from a Mac, but it should fall back to Tahoma and Verdana if they're not available.
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:57 pm

Oh, and thank you for the blog post. I appreciate it. :)
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby Conor » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:00 pm

I have no "if" "else" or "ifnot" planned for the templates until I do a whole revamp. When originally designing the template system I did not take into account that you can't nest comments in HTML. Hence why this limitation propagated to the templates as well. Although since Gamepedia does remove everything bracketed by the if statement it nexting might work out in the final template. thinking about it, this might work out:

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<!--IFimdb<!--ENDimdb--> find IMDB code  <!--IFimdb-->ENDimdb-->

Now this is just a wild guess and something that I now must go and test out.

But concentrating on your template I love it and really appreciate it. By improving Gampedia for yourself you contribute back to the entire Gamepedia and DVDpedia community so a blog post is the least of things we could do.

You can iterate through the links, just like the tracks and credits, but you would have to use some Javascript to be able to pick out links that are images from those that might be something else, although if you only have screenshots then that is not a problem. The code for the links can be found here.
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby kbarnes70 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:02 am

Conor wrote:Thank you so much April for the update and the new DVDpedia version. I have added the files to our extras page with the useful download and install link. I have also added a blog post so that more users find out about them.

Some personal feedback, I would add a conditional link to IMDb based on the presence of the IMDb number. Unfortunately, there is no "else" statement, so you can't simply replace the "find at IMDb" link that is also quite useful, but you could have them side by side or add the IMDb one to the attributes under the image.
Code: Select all
<!--IFimdb <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt[key:imdb]" >IMDb</a> ENDimdb-->


@keith
The latest version is also for DVDpedia so give the DVDpedia version download link a click.


Thanks guys.

Kind regards,

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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby kbarnes70 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:16 am

marumari wrote:Okay, I sat down for six, seven hours this morning and I hammered it out, for the Gamepedia template:

http://www.twoevils.org/html/mygames/

Changes:
* Table doesn't shrink/grow horizontal, during a search
* Now includes *every single attribute* available in Gamepedia, displayed how Gamepedia orders them (mostly)
* Completely revamped the look of the pop-up... look familiar? *grins*

Lemme know what you think! The default font is Lucida Grande (what the Pedias use), so it will look best from a Mac, but it should fall back to Tahoma and Verdana if they're not available.


April - I think it is awesome! I can't wait for your latest version, which is even awesome-er :) Great work!

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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:56 am

Conor / Nora...

Take a look at: http://www.twoevils.org/html/mydvds/

And let me know what you think. I made the ASIN and IMDb fields into links (if the attribute exists) and left the Find on IMDb as it is. It also is patterned after DVDpedia, although I did do some fairly significant reordering of elements (and redid the credit display for better readability than how DVDpedia handles it). It should contain every field that DVDpedia allows.

Also, Conor, check out how I handle the secondary set of star images (grey primary on table, white on popup) - I thought it was cute. :)

Anyways, if you like it, let me know, and I'll try to throw it together into another template upload.
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby kbarnes70 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 pm

marumari wrote:Conor / Nora...

Take a look at: http://www.twoevils.org/html/mydvds/

And let me know what you think. I made the ASIN and IMDb fields into links (if the attribute exists) and left the Find on IMDb as it is. It also is patterned after DVDpedia, although I did do some fairly significant reordering of elements (and redid the credit display for better readability than how DVDpedia handles it). It should contain every field that DVDpedia allows.

Also, Conor, check out how I handle the secondary set of star images (grey primary on table, white on popup) - I thought it was cute. :)

Anyways, if you like it, let me know, and I'll try to throw it together into another template upload.


I want it and I want it NOW! :)

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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby marumari » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:33 pm

Oh, two other changes that I didn't mention are that both the Gamepedia and DVDpedia exports now use the appropriate favicon representing their application - so, the Pac-Man for Gampedia and the DVD + Books icon for DVDPedia. Also, "A " is now ignored at the beginning of a title, so "A Bug's Life" will appear under B instead of under A.
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Re: FancyIndex: Seeking template feedback

Postby Conor » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:46 pm

Those are some quick updates all that in a few days. I forgot to mention that the favicons where a nice touch. I noticed the Gamepedia one last time as it stands out being a Pacman. The stars are a nice touch, but even nicer is the alignment on the credits, I hope you don't mind if I steal the setup on the credits for DVDpedia.
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